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Foundations For the Coming Apostolic Shift (Part II) May 17, 2007

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[EDITORS’S NOTE: THIS IS PART TWO OF A THREE PART ARTICLE.  PART ONE OF THIS ARTICLE CAN BE FOUND HERE.] The Apostle and The Five-Fold Ministry 

             The question that becomes obvious, then, is if apostles are spiritual fathers to churches even though churches have pastors, elders, and teachers, how do apostles and elders (pastors) interact?  How do apostles relate to the other five fold ministries (prophets, evangelists, and teachers)?  An important step in answering that question is to see the purpose of these five different ministries listed in Ephesians 4:11. When we see their purposes in the heart of God we can see how they interact together throughout the New Testament.  

            Paul, in his letter to the Ephesians, lays out a number of incredible truths about the Church and how it is supposed to function in the spiritual and natural realms.  Chapters 1-3 are all about the Church being dead in sin but made alive in God through Christ.  Paul sums up the first part of Ephesians in Ephesians 3:14-19 describing a church that is built up in her inner man to such a degree that she becomes the habitation for the fullness of God’s presence.  Then he moves in chapters 4 through 6, describing how the church should respond to this amazing privilege and awesome responsibility.  In the midst of this profound teaching Paul mentions that when Christ ascended to Heaven He gave gifts to the universal church. These gifts were part of God’s master plan to build His church into a full habitation for His glory, but they weren’t just ministry positions—they were people.   God had so fully moved through these people in one particular area that they went from just being Christians that showed one gift or another, like in 1 Corinthians 12 or Romans 12, to becoming people that God gave to His church as a specially prepared present.           

            Ephesians 4:11 tells us these specially prepared people come with five different ministry functions (apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, or teacher) but they have one purpose: to equip believers for service so that the body could be built up.  What does the body full built up look like?  Paul gives us the answer in 4:13: (1) A unity within the church, (2) a knowledge of God that leads to maturity, and (3) an apprehension by the body of the fullness of God’s presence.  By including five different types of people in the list of gifts, Paul is saying that one man with one particular gifting cannot bring the church to the full expression of maturity in Christ.  Evangelists are great at getting people saved but sometimes very lousy at getting those newly saved people growing.  Pastors care for people well but they often lack the ability to declare the word of the Lord like prophets and they cannot win the lost like evangelists. This is why the Lord calls all of these ministries to work as a team—so that the body of Christ as a whole can receive from each gifting the different elements required to reach maturity. 

            The book of Acts and the epistles of Peter and Paul are probably some of the only places in the history of the church where we see these principles working.  Because we are looking primarily at the role of apostles and elders (this is what pastors were called in the book of Acts and many places in the New Testament), I’ll limit my discussion to those two ministries.  Obviously the apostles took a primary position in the book of Acts because its full title is “The Acts of the Apostles.”  These were the men Jesus had entrusted with the expansion of the kingdom.  In the book of Acts, the apostles would frequently lead in the expansion of the kingdom through preaching and the demonstration the Spirit’s power.  And whenever the Kingdom of God took root in a city, the apostles very carefully created Kingdom Communities where the new citizens of God’s kingship can live and function together.  Today we call them churches.  Wherever these kingdom communities were established the apostles were careful to, after a period of time, appoint elders for each congregation (Acts 14:23, Acts 20:17).  Apostles were often, but not always, part of trans-local (or traveling) ministry teams.  They continued to move and extend the kingdom by preaching and conversion or by bringing God’s reign in a new dimension to already existing churches. 

            Elders, by way of contrast, were local teams that cared for the churches established by these apostles. These elders were men of character who would serve as spiritual parents for the church in the absence of the apostles.  There are several requirements that Paul gives to Timothy and Titus in their assignment to appoint elders in their respective cities.  They can be found in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:6-11.  Make no mistake however, these men were vested with the charge of leading the church in their city.  They did not answer to Paul or Timothy or Titus, but they were in a relationship with them which contained accountability and respect so that at any given point Paul, Timothy, or Titus could come and bring correction or instructions for advance as needed.  The elders were held accountable by God for the health and well being of the churches, as well as for discerning who was and was not a true apostle (Hebrews 13:17, Revelation 2:2). 

            We see very little interaction between apostles and elders in the New Testament, but in those places where it does happen, we gain insight into their relationships.  Acts 15 describes a controversy that arose in the early church over the issue of circumcision.  Because the argument originated with Paul and Barnabas, the brothers of the church in Antioch sent Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem to discuss the matter with “the apostles and elders,” (15:2, 4, 22).  Though we don’t have any recorded speech by an elder at the church in Jerusalem, it seems apparent that the apostles wanted to move forward with the approval of the elders of Jerusalem.  The apostles were concerned with the impact such a decision would have on the theology of the church and the expansion of the churches. The elders had to have a sound understanding of the issue in order to tend to the day to day issues that resulted from such a decision.  Unity was required to be assured the decision was from the Lord. 

            By creating a distinction between apostles and elders, we dare not try to say that there is no room for overlap.  The apostle John wrote the books of 1st through 3rd John.  Several times throughout those books John refers to himself simply as “the elder,” (cf. 2 John 1:1, 3 John 1:1).  Peter referred to himself as a fellow-elder to the elders he wrote to in 1 Peter 5:1.  An apostle often times would fulfill the role of an elder to the broader church and even as an elder to a specific assembly.  A great example in our current landscape is Jack Hayford, more commonly known as “Pastor Jack.”  Jack has gained international recognition for his ministry and operates in an apostolic role, but has remained faithful to fathering one congregation of people most of his life. 

            The danger here, however, is to believe that every pastor is an apostle.  Some are even as foolish to teach that any pastor with a church of X amount of people is automatically an apostle.  That is not the case.  Likewise, not every pastor sent by God to pastor is an apostle just because he is “sent.”  The danger lies in confusing the gifts God sends us.  Jesus taught us to receive a prophet in the name of a prophet so that we might receive “a prophet’s reward” (Matthew 10:41).  The same could be said of apostles, evangelists, or any other gift.  Should we not receive God’s specially sent agents in the capacity God sends them, we miss the impact of what God sent them to accomplish.  If I treat a pastor as if he is an apostle, not only will I expect him to do an apostle’s job (something he was never meant to do) but I will also miss the benefit of his pastoral gift in my life.  The result will lead us to be frustrated, discontented, and spiritually malnourished.

            This brings us to the current situation the church finds herself in.  One reason, but certainly not the only one, that the church in America is ineffective is because we’ve developed a system that is largely inconsistent with what the New Testament describes as church government.  The New Testament mentions the term “pastor” once, in Ephesians 4:11.  But we’ve taken this one mention in the New Testament and exaggerated its importance so much that we have a system that has only pastors, almost entirely excluding every other ministry gift God gave us.  Pastors are not bad, but the body of Christ will never mature if it only receive from pastors to the exclusion of apostles, prophets, evangelists, and teachers.  Only a model that emphasizes all of the gifts of Ephesians 4, with the apostles operating as the connecting point of those different ministries, will be able to lead us into the fullness of Christ. 

[NEXT WEEK- WE'LL FINISH THE ARTICLE WITH A LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF APOSTOLIC TRIBES AND HOW THEY FUNCTION.]

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1. Sasquatch - May 19, 2007

That’s deep man. But very enlightening. I’m gonna hafta reread it when I have more time, but I think I have a beginning understanding of the whole.. uh… thing you were talking about.

2. Nicole - May 21, 2007

Ok so how can we know the difference between these because im still a little confused… honestly I have no idea if I even have ever met an Apostle and also should there be an Apostle in every Church and how do you know the difference I mean an evangelist for instance like Ryaneart Bunkie Ive heard some say hes an evangelist and others say he’s an Apostle what would make him one or the other or could he be both. Does an Apostle walk in all the gifts? And what if there are no Apostles around? I guess that would be why the Church is often “frustrated, discontented, and spiritually malnourished.”
I’ve recently heard more about “Apostolic witness on the Earth” Allan Hood calls Apostles people who are turning the world upsidedown who when they walk into a place the whole city takes notice and these people are only a few on the whole Earth and what about those who were known Missionaries of the past like Brainerd or Revivalists like Finney wasnt there an apostolic witness on them? So would that make them apostles or not?

3. Glori Ann - May 21, 2007

I left a comment yesterday and it never worked, a little bit frustrating, anyways I’ll try again.

So I took awhile to repond because I read the post several times and again with my Bible. So basically the point is that none of the “gifts” (apostle, pastor, ect) are any more important than the other, and we should allow an individual to work within in their gifting, expecting no more or less out of them (unless they are gifted in more than one – discerment is important). So from this, the teaching that a leader must be a five-fold minister (exhibiting all of these gifts) is false then?

4. traviskolder - May 21, 2007

Yeah….looks like you pretty much got it. I think in every church we need godly elders (what most of us call pastors, though in every church there should be more than one) because Paul went around appointing elders in every church that he planted.

However, each church should expect to both receive from experienced five-fold ministries (apostles, evangelists, prophets, and teachers) and raise these ministries up from within their own ranks.

I think, though, that we should be careful not to expect everyone to have the same five fold gift. Ephesians four seems to indicate these are different gifts are different people that function together rather than one person moving in all the gifts. The examples I listed though do show that some apostles functioned as elders, pastors, and teachers…but I would see this mostly in light of their larger calling as apostles. Most five fold ministries are so focused in one area that they actually aren’t able to function in another. I’ve meant many prophets who we would never want as teachers, for example. But they’re great prophets.

This all goes to show that Jesus is an amazing leader, able to assemble a body of very different members into something beautiful that will change the earth.

T

5. traviskolder - May 24, 2007

Nicole-

So…the best way to recognize an apostle is to find people who meet the qualites listed in Part I of the article. Like I said, there is some overlap…Paul was an apostle and a teacher…I do think that Rienhard Bonnke is both an evangelist and an apostle. I don’t see anything in scripture that says an apostle should walk in all the gifts of the Spirit. They are still humans with weakness and limits.

I definitely think that not every church has an apostle in it. Many churches don’t have any grid for apostles, so yeah, it leads to a lot of confusion and frustration. If there are no apostles around, we should pray and ask God to raise them up in our midst and send them our way. Paul told the Thessalonians to pray such a prayer in 1 Thessalonians 3. But being in Kansas City, you should have no shortage of at least one or two real apostles hanging around.

Allen Hood is right though, apostles do turn the world upside down. Often we see them living upside down lifestyles and that is the force that impacts the earth. Allen has often said that the seedbed for the five fold ministry is lives of intercession. Check out Acts 13:1-4. Keep praying…we’ll see more of these people touch the Earth as we pray.

6. Bryan - May 25, 2007

Ok, my question is (jumping in late on the whole thing) is why are you assuming that the elders in the NT are pastors? We have elders in our chruch system today. I allways thought they were the same. At least in function. Obviously not in spirit. Otherwise we might see more fruit from the elders in the american church system. On the other hand if pastors in today’s system are the same in NT. Then what is the eqivelent of elders in today’s system. My quick definition of an apostle is someone who goes into a city. Plants a church and sets leaders over it. He then strengthens those churches. I think any “true” apostle should be moving in power. As well as any member of the five fold minstry or believers for that matter. It also stands to be said though. If you don’t move in power your can still be an apostle. You just haven’t found a full expression of that gift. If you are a believer you are still saved if you don’t move in power. You just haven’t found the full expression of the holy spirit in that area. Many contemplatives reached maturity in christ but never moved in power. So if that’s an Ok quick defintion let me know. Also if you need to ask what a apostle truly is. Why don’t you ask the first apostle. Ask Ninja Jesus!

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